All this has happened before...

[lizardbeth]

You know what? Ron has his faults, but damn if "All this has happened before, and it will happen again" is not the best phrase EVER for fandom.

For example:

- oh look! Adrianne Palicki is rumored to be coming back for a guest appearance on Supernatural. Instead of the joy across the land this SHOULD bring, or even curiosity, there are, of course, a gaggle of people who have judged this is a bad thing. What a shock.

- oh look! Warnings ver. 3 million. I'd link but it's all over metafandom. This is the first time I've heard the "privilege" word getting bandied about so much though. Yeah, there's another word that's going to get sucked dry very soon from overuse. Fandom sure does like using its big hammers lately, which makes it all that much more tiring, I think, and certainly takes a one-way trip to wank where nobody listens and nobody's discussing anything, just stating policy positions and trying very hard to back the other side into a corner of PURE EVIL.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

I slept horribly, have a headache, dumped kiddo at my parents, and fandom is being a drag. It must be summer.

Thank god for killer robots, and plans for double dating to Public Enemies. OH yes, hubby was adorable. "You want to go, right?" -- "Um, hon, which part of Johnny Depp and Christian Bale shooting guns in fedoras did you miss?"

Comments

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

*shouldn't snerk*

*but I did*

[frolicndetour.livejournal.com]

Ha, I'm glad, because I just read the serious, thoughtful comments upthread and... was really wishing I'd read them before I decided a little tasteless humor was the way to go. *cringe*

I think my perspective is skewed because I'm just now reading the whole thing backwards, as it were. So I saw the posts/comments saying "hey, I warn for consent issues, but it's unreasonable to expect warnings for everything anyone could possibly be offended by, including the presence of characters they don't like," thought "yeah, that makes sense," saw all the outrage they incurred... without knowing this whole thing started because someone posted a dub-con story without a warning, and then other people got offended on her behalf after she handled the whole thing gracefully. I'm just now getting the back story.

I guess I do wish that the IMO crystal-clear issue of warning for rape, or "consent issues," be a separate conversation from the issue of whether people should also warn for things like death of a character or "partner betrayal." (Partner betrayal? 2/3 of Kara/Lee fanfic would need a warning! *g*) It's just not fair to either side of the debate./tl;dr

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

(Partner betrayal? 2/3 of Kara/Lee fanfic would need a warning! *g*)

Kara/Zak all the way?

[nicole-anell.livejournal.com]

*nods* Agreed. I eventually walked away from the giant internet blow-up of the moment, because it got wanky and frustrating all around (of course). But FWIW a big part of the drama came from some people clearly stating that there's a difference between triggers and squicks, and yet other people still refused to make that distinction and acted like they were talking about every frivolous thing that might bother someone.

Whatever, I'm just glad BSG fandom was a relatively quiet and far less dramatic place. I don't understand how the already-forgotten actions of one person in an obscure fandom can suddenly turn into a huge overly-academic screaming match between parties who weren't even involved in the first place.

Sorry, that's the last I'll say about it in poor lizardbeth_j's journal. HOW ABOUT THAT JOHNNY DEPP?