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1. Rugrat
Not his real name, lol, but one of my many, many nicknames for him. My one true joy in life.

2. Roslin, Laura
I'm glad she's not my boss, but she is a fabulous character, who pwns everybody.

3. Rennie, Callum
Before BSG I knew who he was and I liked his work (though I was never a big DS fan, so that didn't really impact me much), but now? I'm much more educated. :)


4. Raiders -
They're just cool. I'm especially fond of Sam's pet in the Not All That We Are. "His" story's not over yet either. :)

5. Reese boys -- both Derek and Kyle.
Because they are screwed up badasses who die tragically, then reappear in the future as slightly-less-screwed-up younger badasses who kill lots of bad robots.


6. Richard Alpert
Because he's strange, mysterious, hot, looks cute when he's confused, and immortal. He hasn't even changed his clothes in thirty years, and yet they're still clean. That's some kind of awesome superpower right there. What else do you need in a character?
7. Ruby
Widely reviled in fandom, but she was smart and evil and she totally pwned Sam from beginning to end. She's awesome. Fandom haters can suck it. (I have NEVER in my life seen more people come out of the woodwork about how much they LURVED Katie Cassidy but can't stand Genevieve. Yeah, fandom, my memory's not THAT short. Y'all hated Katie, too, so STFU.)
8. Runrig
Scottish Gaelic rock band from the 80's-90's (and today, actualy). I was living in Glasgow at the height of their popularity and you couldn't NOT get into it. When I came back to the US, I haunted the Virgin Megastore for imports. I still have no idea what a third of their songs are about, but I can sing them all. :)

9. Rain - because it doesn't happen all that often around here (except when it does) and it cleans out the air and washes the dirt from the trees and makes everything a little brighter.

10. Robots
Fictional. Real. They're all awesome. Except for those super-creepy Japanese ones.



I'm sure I'll think of twelve other things the instant I post, but this is what occurred to me.
If you want a letter, let me know.
Not dial-up friendly.
1. Rugrat
Not his real name, lol, but one of my many, many nicknames for him. My one true joy in life.

2. Roslin, Laura
I'm glad she's not my boss, but she is a fabulous character, who pwns everybody.

3. Rennie, Callum
Before BSG I knew who he was and I liked his work (though I was never a big DS fan, so that didn't really impact me much), but now? I'm much more educated. :)


4. Raiders -
They're just cool. I'm especially fond of Sam's pet in the Not All That We Are. "His" story's not over yet either. :)

5. Reese boys -- both Derek and Kyle.
Because they are screwed up badasses who die tragically, then reappear in the future as slightly-less-screwed-up younger badasses who kill lots of bad robots.


6. Richard Alpert
Because he's strange, mysterious, hot, looks cute when he's confused, and immortal. He hasn't even changed his clothes in thirty years, and yet they're still clean. That's some kind of awesome superpower right there. What else do you need in a character?
7. Ruby
Widely reviled in fandom, but she was smart and evil and she totally pwned Sam from beginning to end. She's awesome. Fandom haters can suck it. (I have NEVER in my life seen more people come out of the woodwork about how much they LURVED Katie Cassidy but can't stand Genevieve. Yeah, fandom, my memory's not THAT short. Y'all hated Katie, too, so STFU.)
8. Runrig
Scottish Gaelic rock band from the 80's-90's (and today, actualy). I was living in Glasgow at the height of their popularity and you couldn't NOT get into it. When I came back to the US, I haunted the Virgin Megastore for imports. I still have no idea what a third of their songs are about, but I can sing them all. :)

9. Rain - because it doesn't happen all that often around here (except when it does) and it cleans out the air and washes the dirt from the trees and makes everything a little brighter.

10. Robots
Fictional. Real. They're all awesome. Except for those super-creepy Japanese ones.



I'm sure I'll think of twelve other things the instant I post, but this is what occurred to me.
If you want a letter, let me know.
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I think that is one of my favorite recent pics of Rugrat. :D
Robots! Reese boys! <3 I love your list!
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Letter me.
Are there other rules? I've never done a picspam before.
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You get the letter.... B.
It doesn't have to be a picspam, just ten things. Most people do lists; I'm just kind of picspammy.
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Exactly. Where were all these Katie!Ruby-loving people when she was on the show?
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And if you give me a letter, this kind of meme sounds like something I could slip do.
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Your letter is... N
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And if he'll fight shirtless that's really all I need. It worked for Sam Witwer.
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*Only Galen and Ellen are resurrection scientists. Sam is a test subject, Tory is CEO John Cavil's assistant, and Saul is the new leader of the tribe. This contradicts them working to rebuild resurrection at the same facility and each having 1/5 of the secret.
*Sam and Ellen did not know each other on Earth, so how can he remember her coming to the beach? Could have been another planet or a projection during their journey, but doubtful.
*The first of the Thirteenth Tribe were downloaded humans, contradicting Cavil II's statement that "your ancestors didn't crawl up out of the swamp".
Furthermore, in the podcast for No Exit, Moore mentions a cut scene (unfilmed) in which Ellen is talking to Boomer about the fourth wall. She mentions that the Lords of Kobol thought that humans could never break the fourth wall until the Lords' fire was stolen to make the Cylons, and that humanity thought Cylons could never break the fourth wall until the very first Centurions rebelled, and then the exodus from Paradise began. Which seems to imply that they were Centurion-type Cylons who became the Thirteenth Tribe on Kobol, unlike in this comic.
What do you think of that bit of information?, I wish it had been filmed.
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That said, re the last part, I tend to go more with what Organic Memory Transfer (as Sam said) implies to me, which sounds like download technolgy into cloned bodies back on Kobol. But then, I don't care for how EXACTLY the same everything was on Kobol in the comic book either (identical flightsuits? c'mon) since I don't believe a cycle of time requires that much specificity.
I am so glad that scene wasn't filmed because it sounds like a terrible snooze. And also then I might have to take it as canon, and now I don't.
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Yeah, Cylons could download into cloned bodies, that doesn't mean they were ever strictly human. I'm going to go with what Cavil said, that they didn't crawl up out of the swamp. One wonders how they went from mechanical to humanoid, I hope it didn't involve Razor-esque experiments. In any case, there was certainly some kind of conflict between the Thirteenth Tribe and the others that caused the end of Paradise and for them to go their separate ways after Kobol was abandoned, though there's little indication of an outright war. The others don't remember them as enemies.
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The difference only being whether those original Thirteenth were carrying the memories/souls of original humans or sentient Centurion-like machines, I suppose.
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I now have a strange idea that it would be interesting if Kara's ancestors and Sam's ancestors knew each other on Kobol and had conflict.
Also in Theoryland, what do you think the hierarchical relationship amongst the Cylons would be like if Cavil hadn't carried out his coup? I think the others would listen to and respect the Five, but the Five would want to avoid being ordering-around-type people. Which could lead to some interesting situations/disagreements.
The "new" trailer for The Plan is awesomesauce, no?
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Would they? Only their memories would be human; their bodies wouldn't be. And once they started having babies, those babies would only genetically go back to those founders artificial bodies, not human ones.
Or maybe they did at first claim they were human, but the humans said they weren't. And then they got thrown into exile and the Cylons said, "you know what? humans suck, and we don't want to be like them" and they passed that down. Or hell, maybe they forgot. They managed to lose resurrection, after all so I doubt their histories are all that great either (which makes Cavil's source of knowledge yet more dubious).
Cavil's assuming something, but then nobody in the Colonies seems to have any concept of a non-human who ISN'T also a machine. Which is really a major stumbling block for both humans and cylons -- they just don't have the vocabulary to talk about what the humanoid Cylons ARE so they get put in either a human or machine box, when they're really not either.
Anyway, about the last question: I think yeah, the Five would be respected as the makers, but since the Five knowingly gave them free will, no, I don't think they'd try to set themselves up as rulers of the Cylon regime or anything. I figure the idea of the consensus came from them, as did the majority rule addendum when the unanimity started to break down. So it probably would've ended up some kind of Consensus of Thirteen running things. Until they got added to the Colonies, and joined the Quorum...
EEEEEEEEEE PLAN. yes.
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Added to the Colonies...
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PS I finally friended you :) I hope it's OK
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Sure, no problem. welcome!