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Ok, so I'm obviously on a Sam-fic writing frenzy lately, and I've thought of a few questions for y'all.
Because this is spoilery...
1.
In the Quadrangle, Kara was treating Sam rather, er, badly. Now, we've discussed before why he let her: is he really a doormat (as some say)? Was he just giving damaged Kara time to figure out what she wanted because he really does love her and he understands she needs space and time? (and okay, yeah, I subscribe to the second obviously).
But, it occurred to me to wonder if he also still doesn't feel guilty about what happened to her on New Caprica. I've certainly written him during NC as feeling guilty that he can't find or rescue her. What if that guilt continued on later, as he watches her fall apart? He sleeps with her, so he's gotta know she still has nightmares at the very least, plus she did talk to him about Leoben at SOME point...
So is being her boy toy in some measure doing penance for his failure to keep her safe?
2.
Or, and this is my other thought (and the two aren't mutually exclusive), perhaps he was also feeling guilty about the deaths he'd caused as part of the Circle. In Collaborators, we can already see him getting sick of it, and eventually walk out. I guess this sort of depends on how hard-core a person sees Sam and probably one's own level of comfort with the plot-line, but did the human deaths (both on NC and later as part of the Circle) bother him later? Given that we know nothing of what he was up to on the other ship when he wasn't with Kara -- there's a lot of time there where second-thoughts might have started to prey on him. And a booty call to Galactica might have sounded like a good idea to forget his own demons, too.
3.
And okay, while we're on the subject of Collaborators: they return to Galactica after NC and they end up in Kara's rack. NOT in married quarters. All the other couples we know about get married quarters: Agathons, Adamas, and the Tyrols. Now, one thing is all of them are military, where Sam wasn't, so that might be one explanation. But if we assume it was someone's choice, was it Kara's? Did she refuse any offer Adama might have made for married quarters in her quest to "Starbuck" herself? Or was there some other reason?
In any case, if Starbuck refused the quarters, it helps me understand why Sam gave her back the tags -- he'd already had fair warning that she didn't consider herself married or at least together anymore.
Thoughts?
Because this is spoilery...
1.
In the Quadrangle, Kara was treating Sam rather, er, badly. Now, we've discussed before why he let her: is he really a doormat (as some say)? Was he just giving damaged Kara time to figure out what she wanted because he really does love her and he understands she needs space and time? (and okay, yeah, I subscribe to the second obviously).
But, it occurred to me to wonder if he also still doesn't feel guilty about what happened to her on New Caprica. I've certainly written him during NC as feeling guilty that he can't find or rescue her. What if that guilt continued on later, as he watches her fall apart? He sleeps with her, so he's gotta know she still has nightmares at the very least, plus she did talk to him about Leoben at SOME point...
So is being her boy toy in some measure doing penance for his failure to keep her safe?
2.
Or, and this is my other thought (and the two aren't mutually exclusive), perhaps he was also feeling guilty about the deaths he'd caused as part of the Circle. In Collaborators, we can already see him getting sick of it, and eventually walk out. I guess this sort of depends on how hard-core a person sees Sam and probably one's own level of comfort with the plot-line, but did the human deaths (both on NC and later as part of the Circle) bother him later? Given that we know nothing of what he was up to on the other ship when he wasn't with Kara -- there's a lot of time there where second-thoughts might have started to prey on him. And a booty call to Galactica might have sounded like a good idea to forget his own demons, too.
3.
And okay, while we're on the subject of Collaborators: they return to Galactica after NC and they end up in Kara's rack. NOT in married quarters. All the other couples we know about get married quarters: Agathons, Adamas, and the Tyrols. Now, one thing is all of them are military, where Sam wasn't, so that might be one explanation. But if we assume it was someone's choice, was it Kara's? Did she refuse any offer Adama might have made for married quarters in her quest to "Starbuck" herself? Or was there some other reason?
In any case, if Starbuck refused the quarters, it helps me understand why Sam gave her back the tags -- he'd already had fair warning that she didn't consider herself married or at least together anymore.
Thoughts?
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But YES, bastards, not letting us see how the tag comes back. She brushes off Lee and then... she and Sam are in the bar and he has it (didn't we decide he had it then? or was it after that?) OMG I forget DAMN IT.
2. yeah, Caprica again, but worse. At least on Old Caprica he never (afaweknow) killed any humans. On NC they were humans. I tend to think while he could compartmentalize Sharon out as special, so killing Cylons wasn't hard, knowing he's killing humans had to eat at him. Not in the way it bothered Tyrol, who was more open about his doubts at the time, but more inside, where it just built and built, until he was the one that had to walk out of the Circle.
I don't want to overstate that either - in a way, maybe all that just contributed to his not being angry anymore, at least not in the way that Tyrol and Tigh and Charlie were.
3. No doubt there are only a few and immediately post-Exodus there was a lot of confusion and packed quarters, etc. Heck, they're still shuffling people around when Helo's mayor of Dogville weeks (months?) later. And obviously the Tyrols and later the Agathons are special because they had children too.
It just seems like such a distancing measure. Kara's barely got her stuff out, so they've only been on board a short time, and they're in HER rack. Which okay, was familiar and easy to possess when there's chaos. But the racks aren't built to share, and Sam's a civilian anyway, so probably shouldn't be there. It didn't strike me that odd at the time, but in retrospect it seems more deliberate. It's not just that she pulls away in that opening scene -- by her choice of where they're sleeping, she's ALREADY pushing him away.
ANd.. *snicker* did she forget?
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I've checked the screencaps, and there's no way to tell. I think he IS wearing it at Joe's, but the lighting and the angles don't let us see. He's definitely wearing it the next time, post-sex.
3. It is a distance, a measure of how little she valued their marriage at that point. *wince*
Nah. I think she's just astounded that they keep getting married, elsewhere.
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And if he hadn't been sick... hm. that's an intriguing AU to ponder.
Maybe the image will be better on DVD and we'll know for sure.