Watching DW - Beast Below

[lizardbeth]

I just.

it is too late for me to be watching this show.



From "The Beast Below"
Doctor: Children cry silently because they can't stop. *looks at Amy* Any parent knows that.
Amy: Are you a parent?
Doctor: *pause* ... Hundreds of parents walking past...

THE DOCTOR DOESN'T KNOW YET ABOUT MELODY. HE CAN'T.
AND YET THAT IS EXTREMELY POINTY IN HINDSIGHT.

FUUUUU MOFFAT

and. Also.

Why does Moffat never have Eleven answer the question? He has a kid/kids in previous regenerations, right? Or were they of uncertain canonicity?

OR,

Is this theory that the cradle is for his and River's child truuuuuueee? Which doesn't make sense because he barely knows River at this point, so he would have no idea about it happening.

UNLESS because River knows his name in Forest of the Dead, he also knows that he will, at some point,in his future have a child with her? I could see that as a reveal that it's not that they marry that reveals his name, it's a child.

or else (a) this show has broken my brain, and/or (b) I just really want adorable Time Babies on the TARDIS.

I AM SO SORRY DOCTOR WHO FANDOM I KNOW THAT IS HORRID AND WRONG. I will stop.

But. But.

TIME BABIES.
TIME LORDS WHO UNDERSTAND "BABY".
Eleven and RIver being parents. Rory and Amy as grandparents (and somewhere the tardis herself just presiding over everything with a fond happy smile)

SHOOOOOOOWW.

So wrong except I suddenly want this LIKE BURNING



Please do not trip over the wacky theories on your way out.

Comments

[noybusiness.livejournal.com]

Yes. His first companion was his granddaughter, who used the name "Susan Foreman". The series started with her science teacher Ian Chesterson and history teacher Barbara Wright (one of the earliest strong female scifi characters I can name) investigating their strange student and finding that her home was a blue police box in a junkyard. The rest, as they say, is history.

In the 70's-80's, many fans wanted the Doctor and his species to be asexual, so they tried to fanwank that Susan was his adopted granddaughter. However, in the 2006 episode "Fear Her", the Doctor briefly mentioned to Rose that he was once a dad. In 2008, he referred to his dead children in the plural, so there were at least two. Also, in the 2005 episode "The Empty Child", Dr. Constantine says that he was a father and a grandfather before the war and is now neither, and the Doctor says he knows the feeling.

[lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com]

Ah, I did see Empty Child so I probably recalled that vaguely - plus I've heard about Susan (tho I wasn't sure if she'd been officially retconned out of relative-ness). But I suppose the question then remains -- why is Eleven being cagey about it now when he's been reasonably open about it before? I suppose it could just be general Eleven evasiveness as pointed out above, and/or just being upset about being the last and all that. He gets a bit squirrelly in Amy's Choice, too. So. IDEK.

I admit, I want it to MEAN Something, since that's the way I roll. But it's probably just Moffat trolling fandom.

[noybusiness.livejournal.com]

Actually, he instantly changed the subject and acted as if he'd said nothing after he mentioned it to Rose. And when it came up with Donna, it was because it had to. I don't want to spoil.