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lizardbeth) wrote2008-01-28 08:58 am
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And then there were Twelve...
More Final Cylon spec, this time looking at the MODEL NUMBERS...
And yes, this is an even MORE useless exercise in pure speculation than rambling about how Zarek is the Final Cylon ZOMG!. *g*
Assuming that the model numbers have some sort of PATTERN (there's some comment of RDM's I saw lately to that effect...), then that should give us a clue to the Final Cylon. This also presumes that the Five aren't cylons of a previous generation/reborn lords of kobol/whatever, and are five of the twelve models with model numbers, however special/different they may be.
First, the model numbers we know:
THREE
FIVE (Doral)
SIX
EIGHT
Cylons who have no number: Leoben, Cavil, Simon, Tory, Anders, Tigh, and Tyrol. (ASIDE: It's BIZARRE to include them like this, rather than separated out.)
It's immediately obvious that the Final Five can't be all together - the Eights mess that up (and boy, does Ron wish he'd called her Seven, I bet). The most obvious solution is to put the Dylan Four in as 9-12 and leave Final for Number One.
Maybe.
One of the things that jumps out at me in the list is how much older Tigh and Cavil are/look compared to the rest. Then D'Anna and Leoben are a little younger, better looking - and then... well, eventually we get to the young hot things. *g*
We also have the longest history for Tigh in the Fleet, some twenty-odd years. (But not back to the first war, people - have we finally crushed that bit of fanon yet? Adama can only verify Saul's existence personally to when they first met, well after the war.) So he could have been created early.
And yes, I presume Cavil is Two. He could be One as well, and that wouldn't change much of the guesses.
So let's see what happens if we assume Tigh is One:
Tigh
Cavil
Three
Leoben
Five/Doral
Six
Simon
Eight/Sharon
Tyrol
Tory
Anders
?
Sorting it that way, there's another pattern: m/m/f - m/m/f - m/f - m/f - m/?
So ta-da! the answer is obviouswhen I make it come out this way.
Cylon Number 12 is Dee. There is no woman younger and hotter than Dee in the main cast.
However, there are two other very good candidates, of the more mature variety. Let's see what happens when I put them in, and see if I can make a pattern:
Cavil
Tigh
D'Anna
Zarek
Doral
Six
Leoben
Sharon
Simon
Anders
Tyrol
Tory
In this one, D'Anna breaks the pattern, because it's hard to put three mature guys into only two slots; one of them has to go after her. So that doesn't work as nicely.
And one more:
Roslin
Cavil
D'Anna
Tigh
Doral
Six
Leoben
Sharon
Tyrol
Tory
Anders
Simon
Hm, none of the arrangements I could think of really fell into a nice pattern for her either.
There's also the beginning of a vague name pattern. Of course, these are only because these are the identities that some of them were given/assigned, so it's possibly completely meaningless. However, since I've never let that stop me before, note how some of the Cylons can be paired:
Tyrol -- Tory
D'Anna -- Anders
Simon -- Sharon
Leoben - Laura
Cavil - Saul?
Six - Doral (?/ - really, without having a 'common' name for Six - hers can be anybody)
Which results in:
Cavil
Saul
D'anna
Anders
Doral
Six
Simon
Sharon
Tyrol
Tory
Leoben
Laura
Which scatters the Final Five through the Twelve, and if true, would suggest the division between them has more to do with politics/belief than any intrinsic difference physically. I don't think that's really supported by canon, but check this out:
Using Dee (Dualla) the list could go this way:
Cavil
Conoy (Leoben)
D'Anna
Dualla
Doral
Six
Simon
Sharon
Samuel Anders
Saul Tigh
Tory
Tyrol
Which proves nothing (except that RDM and Co really like "S" names), but it's kind of fun how it fell out that way.
Bored at lunchtime? What? *g*
And yes, this is an even MORE useless exercise in pure speculation than rambling about how Zarek is the Final Cylon ZOMG!. *g*
Assuming that the model numbers have some sort of PATTERN (there's some comment of RDM's I saw lately to that effect...), then that should give us a clue to the Final Cylon. This also presumes that the Five aren't cylons of a previous generation/reborn lords of kobol/whatever, and are five of the twelve models with model numbers, however special/different they may be.
First, the model numbers we know:
THREE
FIVE (Doral)
SIX
EIGHT
Cylons who have no number: Leoben, Cavil, Simon, Tory, Anders, Tigh, and Tyrol. (ASIDE: It's BIZARRE to include them like this, rather than separated out.)
It's immediately obvious that the Final Five can't be all together - the Eights mess that up (and boy, does Ron wish he'd called her Seven, I bet). The most obvious solution is to put the Dylan Four in as 9-12 and leave Final for Number One.
Maybe.
One of the things that jumps out at me in the list is how much older Tigh and Cavil are/look compared to the rest. Then D'Anna and Leoben are a little younger, better looking - and then... well, eventually we get to the young hot things. *g*
We also have the longest history for Tigh in the Fleet, some twenty-odd years. (But not back to the first war, people - have we finally crushed that bit of fanon yet? Adama can only verify Saul's existence personally to when they first met, well after the war.) So he could have been created early.
And yes, I presume Cavil is Two. He could be One as well, and that wouldn't change much of the guesses.
So let's see what happens if we assume Tigh is One:
Tigh
Cavil
Three
Leoben
Five/Doral
Six
Simon
Eight/Sharon
Tyrol
Tory
Anders
?
Sorting it that way, there's another pattern: m/m/f - m/m/f - m/f - m/f - m/?
So ta-da! the answer is obvious
Cylon Number 12 is Dee. There is no woman younger and hotter than Dee in the main cast.
However, there are two other very good candidates, of the more mature variety. Let's see what happens when I put them in, and see if I can make a pattern:
Cavil
Tigh
D'Anna
Zarek
Doral
Six
Leoben
Sharon
Simon
Anders
Tyrol
Tory
In this one, D'Anna breaks the pattern, because it's hard to put three mature guys into only two slots; one of them has to go after her. So that doesn't work as nicely.
And one more:
Roslin
Cavil
D'Anna
Tigh
Doral
Six
Leoben
Sharon
Tyrol
Tory
Anders
Simon
Hm, none of the arrangements I could think of really fell into a nice pattern for her either.
There's also the beginning of a vague name pattern. Of course, these are only because these are the identities that some of them were given/assigned, so it's possibly completely meaningless. However, since I've never let that stop me before, note how some of the Cylons can be paired:
Tyrol -- Tory
D'Anna -- Anders
Simon -- Sharon
Leoben - Laura
Cavil - Saul?
Six - Doral (?/ - really, without having a 'common' name for Six - hers can be anybody)
Which results in:
Cavil
Saul
D'anna
Anders
Doral
Six
Simon
Sharon
Tyrol
Tory
Leoben
Laura
Which scatters the Final Five through the Twelve, and if true, would suggest the division between them has more to do with politics/belief than any intrinsic difference physically. I don't think that's really supported by canon, but check this out:
Using Dee (Dualla) the list could go this way:
Cavil
Conoy (Leoben)
D'Anna
Dualla
Doral
Six
Simon
Sharon
Samuel Anders
Saul Tigh
Tory
Tyrol
Which proves nothing (except that RDM and Co really like "S" names), but it's kind of fun how it fell out that way.
Bored at lunchtime? What? *g*